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Re: KK+Aaron in the Netherlands

Postby judgenothing » Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:59 pm

king_rhoton wrote:This calendar is still set for August!" I point out, "That's August of 2004."

WOW! So no one had stayed in this room in almost 6 years?!!! Kinda funny if it happens to be true. :)

king_rhoton wrote:P: "Your bed. Are you done with it? I want to sell it."
K: "What?"
P: "Dutch humor. We sell your bed to the next person as soon as we can."
K: "Oh. OK. Cause I was having a panic attack."

Now that is hilarious!!! I can imagine Kevn literally having a panic attack over this!

King: There isn't a Dutch connection with the Reuben sandwich as far as I know. I just thought that out of all of the pubs that you & Gwen ate in there might have been one that had a Reuben on its menu. It can be made with Russian dressing, but every one that I've ever eaten has been made with Thousand Island dressing. The origin is disputed. One account holds that Reuben Kulakofsky, a grocer from Omaha, Nebraska, was the inventor. Other accounts hold that its creator was Arnold Reuben, owner of the once famous but now no longer existing Reuben's Delicatessen in New York. The Rachel sandwich is a variation on the standard Reuben sandwich that substitutes pastrami for the corned beef and coleslaw for the sauerkraut. Other recipes for the Rachel call for turkey instead of corned beef or pastrami.

Thank you kindly for all of these updates! :)
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Re: KK+Aaron in the Netherlands

Postby king_rhoton » Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:28 pm

judgenothing wrote:There isn't a Dutch connection with the Reuben sandwich as far as I know. I just thought that out of all of the pubs that you & Gwen ate in there might have been one that had a Reuben on its menu.


Gwen is a friend to the Reuben, and we often see it on the menu. Her current fav seems to be from
http://www.porkstorecafe.com/
although that's perhaps a bit biased since it's a block from our house!
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Re: KK+Aaron in the Netherlands

Postby judgenothing » Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:37 pm

My favorite (so far) is made by Schlotzsky's. http://www.schlotzskys.com

I think the closest one to you is 254 miles away in Bakersfield. They use this really dark rye bread that I've not discovered anywhere else.
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Re: KK+Aaron in the Netherlands

Postby king_rhoton » Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:51 pm

Heh--I know Schlotzsky's because they used to be one of a few national chains that had free WiFi. Handy when you're on-the-road. And their turkey sandwiches are pretty good too.
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Re: KK+Aaron in the Netherlands

Postby Stargical » Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:39 pm

Hey King,
It has been great reading about the trip. Thanks for all the info.
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Re: KK+Aaron in the Netherlands

Postby king_rhoton » Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:50 pm

(cue Logan's Run announcer voice) Last day, Netherlands tour

8am. Gwen and I wake up to rain. Get cleaned up and head down to breakfast at 9am. Should've asked for a later breakfast--this is our shortest commute day since Hoorn is only around half an hour from Amsterdam. Breakfast is the same as yesterday. Specifically, cold and sparse. Shortly, Jan shows up.

K: "So, did everyone survive last night?"
J: "There was a lot of drinking. I must have had bad shrimp for dinner--I was ill all night."
K: "Yikes. Good thing it didn't happen during the show."

Jan smiles. Sounds like he's pretty empty, and that's probably a good thing.

K: "So, everyone's probably going to be sleeping until check-out."
J: "Yes. They have a few more minutes, and they're not even out of bed yet."

Unbeknownst to me, check-out is at 10am. Sigh. Great. So, rather than going back upstairs for another couple of hours nap, we need to get the heck outta Dodge. As we're getting ready to head back up to the room, Kevn shows up.

K: "Coffee."
J: (in Dutch) "Can get we get a pot of koffie?"
(waitress rummages around)
K, turning to the waitress: "And do you have a toaster?"
(nothing)
K (turning to Jan): "Do they have a toaster?"
J (in Dutch): "Toaster?"
(nothing)
J (more stridently, in Dutch): "Do you have a toaster?"
W: (around 30 seconds of pretty past-paced and emotional Dutch)
J: "No."

Note to self: investigate other hotels in Hoorn if there's a return....

Gwen and I brave the rain for the 2 blocks back to the train station. Short trainride back to Amsterdam. Great; it's bucketing down. Amsterdam just doesn't want me to like it. We grab a cab to the hotel. From on-line reviews, I knew about one big problem--lots of people had commented on the front stairs. And I see what they mean: stone steps, worn smooth, currently lubed with rain water, and with all of a 4" tread and a 6" rise. Definitely not ADA-compliant. This will be a joy to load our equipment in and out. Inside, though, it's warm and dry. I can see why Kevn likes this place. For one, it's QUITE cheap. That probably also accounts for its popularity with other musicians too; the wall is covered in framed photos of famous guests: Bowie, various Stones, etc. Later in the day, I see Aaron post to Facebook that Slash was in the room next to his.

We've arrived at the hotel at 11am, so I'm not too surprised that our room isn't ready. We wander around in the rain and find the venue. No small feat, as it's entirely unmarked--it does, however, have show posters in a ribbon around it. Ah, and the glamorous loading dock. Well, that took all of half an hour. So, now that we have time to kill, NOW's the time for a sit-down meal in Amsterdam. We find another pancake house. Gwen gets goat cheese and spinach, and I get Indonesian chicken (hey, it's an early show, so if there's a problem, it shouldn't kick in until after the show). That kills around an hour. We're back to the hotel around 1pm. After 5 minutes, our room is actually ready. The show's at 4:30, so we need to be there around 2pm, so it's a quick-ish turnaround in the hotel. Our room is tiny, around the size of a psych cell. The bed takes up most of the floor space. There's JUST enough room to open the suitcase on the floor. The window's open, natch, but the room's warm. The radiator doesn't seem to have any control, so I guess the strategy is to keep it on and regulate the temperature by how far you open the window.

Back to the venue, and I see the van, so I know Jan's here. As we're looking for entry, some timid and awkward German guy approaches me with a bag containing several records. "Kevn Kinney?" What is it over here? I need to find some way to work this to my advantage. I tell him when doors are and assure him that Kevn will be happy to autograph stuff after the show. We go inside.

It takes a while to find the right stage. I know Kevn's not playing the main stage (and some other band is loading-in too), but I thought is was downstairs, but it turns out it's upstairs. The room's roughly twice the size of Smith's. It's got thick blackout curtains, a raised stage, and rows of seats for around 70. I find Jan and show him my cables:

K: "Can I get a soundboard feed again?"
J: "You have to ask the house guy." His face turns sour and he gestures to the board. "All this is digital."

The sound guy plugs in my XLR cables (not cinch!). No signal. He boosts the signal all the way. Still nothing. I turn my gain all the way up. One LED. That's probably just noise. After another 20 minutes, he determines that the patch panel where I'm plugged-in isn't actually connected to anything. "All this is brand-new." Great. So, this will be a learning experience for all of us. He plugs me in somewhere else. Eventually he gets the sound routing right. (At one point, I have solid levels, and he seems happy, but I notice that they're not moving and ask him to kill the feed. My levels stay the same--yup, this is just noise. He understands. When everything looks reasonable, I grab ear buds from Gwen which she saved from our flight--not exactly high-fidelity, but I'm able to determine I'm getting SOMETHING although it's inexplicably delayed by 5 seconds from the room sound. Damn digital boards. I can fix that in post, and this is probably as good as I'm going to get anyway.)

The show happens. Gwen and I take our customary out-of-the-way-but-still-front-row seats. The front row center seats end up going to a family who bring several kids around 6 years old. And they're fussy and noisy. The house sound drowns them out, and I think Aaron performing "My Ex-Girlfrield Is a Bad Lesbian on Drugs" convinces the family to leave. Thanks, Aaron! During Kevn's set, some guy with a Nikon is taking shots at the front. I loan him my lenses--hopefully he likes 'em. He's shooting with an 85mm prime, and I notice it's f1.4. Nice. Shame it's a DX. As I wind through the crowd to check the audio, I stumble into Peter from Hoorn! "Hey!" He seems pleased I remember. After the show, I tell him, "Your show was better." Guys are talking around my mic, so I relocate it a bit further back. I expect that the show in the biggest city with the most expensive sound system will turn out to be the worst, audio-wise. You can just NEVER tell how these things are going to go.

After the show, Gwen and I pack our stuff well so we don't have to repack for the flight and drag our stuff back to the hotel--there's no telling when the band is leaving nor if they're going back to the hotel first. We get back to the hotel wet, but the equipment cases are waterproof, so I'm not overly worried. I take my time hauling it up the front steps. I have visions of slipping and losing a handful of teeth. Back up the in room, and I run out of steam. 4 days on-the-go. I set the alarm (we're actually leaving before breakfast, so I don't have to worry about that) and pass out.
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Re: KK+Aaron in the Netherlands

Postby king_rhoton » Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:05 pm

postscript

First day, post-shows.

Gwen and I lug the equipment downstairs. It's 7:30am. In the lobby, we see Kevn sitting alone with a coffee and cigarette (no toast, though). He invites us over and we chat for a while while we wait for our taxi. Kevn insists on helping us get our equipment down the front steps. "I'm sure they've killed before," I warn him, but he descends them sure-footed as a mountain goat.

Nothing much eventful on our return, except for Gwen and airport security. Whereas in the US, we usually have a separate terminal for international travel, I hadn't thought that international was probably the norm for European airports. So each gate has the full international screening gear. I get through with no problem (this isn't my first rodeo). Gwen's carrying the backpack that's got nothing but cables and chargers, so she normally doesn't have a problem. Only this time, they empty the whole bag. And comb through it. And call other security over. And at one point, Gwen's filling out a form. Really, of all the stuff we're carrying (heck, I've even got a large-ish wrench in my backpack at this point), they don't like our camera cleaner bulb and confiscate it:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Revi ... eview.aspx

Evidently it looks like a bomb, and we could try and hijack a plane with this soft, rubber object that's a squeaker away from being a dog toy. Whatever. We board our home for the next 11 hours.
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Re: KK+Aaron in the Netherlands

Postby pluckey » Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:41 am

Great stories, King! Glad y'all survived the "Survival of the Fittest" Netherlands Tour of 2010!

Has the ankle healed up yet? Must be harsh to pedal the bike with only one leg.

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Re: KK+Aaron in the Netherlands

Postby king_rhoton » Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:27 am

The ankle's mostly back to normal. I expect that the sprain was only part of the problem as there's a specific tender spot on the sole of my foot. I suspect I actually broke a bone during the sprain. I was feeling that every time I wasn't thinking and squatted down to take a picture during the shows.

Tomorrow, I'm back on the bike (thankfully, rain this past week has kept me from having to make the hard decision to start biking again).
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Re: KK+Aaron in the Netherlands

Postby judgenothing » Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:37 pm

king_rhoton wrote:Gwen gets goat cheese and spinach, and I get Indonesian chicken (hey, it's an early show, so if there's a problem, it shouldn't kick in until after the show).

Correct me if I am mistaken. Is goat cheese the same as feta cheese? If so, I LOVE it in a gyro wrap! Was there any problems with the Indonesian chicken later on in the evening? How did it taste?
king_rhoton wrote:some timid and awkward German guy approaches me with a bag containing several records. "Kevn Kinney?" What is it over here? I need to find some way to work this to my advantage.

MOST DEFINITELY! So, despite there being tons of pictures of Kevn on the internet, on his solo & DNC albums, do fans not have general idea of what he looks like? This boggles my mind.
king_rhoton wrote:The front row center seats end up going to a family who bring several kids around 6 years old. And they're fussy and noisy. The house sound drowns them out, and I think Aaron performing "My Ex-Girlfriend Is a Bad Lesbian on Drugs" convinces the family to leave. Thanks, Aaron!

WOOHOO! Leave it to Aaron! Did the family not return for Kevn's set? Does everyone speak & understand English? The reason I am asking is because it seemed like no one knew what a toaster was.

So, besides the camera cleaner bulb (WTF?), I take it there were no other issues worth mentioning on the flight home. Now, did you write/type everything that you posted in this thread while you & Gwen were over there (while it was still fresh) or did you recall it all from memory? Also, was it easy or difficult to get to sleep in a strange bed? Thanks again for taking the time out of your busy schedule to tell us about your adventure. Welcome back home!
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Re: KK+Aaron in the Netherlands

Postby BellaBlue » Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:24 pm

Thanks King for all the stories. Glad ya'll made it back in one peice. I love traveling, seeing the shows, trains too.
I am planning to take the river boat up the Mississippi some day and the river boat in Savannah this month.
I'd never travel as far as you and Gwen do, never been on a plane or ship...yet :)
Can't wait to see the shows you recorded, I hope KK played some surprises for ya... All your hard work is grately enjoyed!
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Re: KK+Aaron in the Netherlands

Postby king_rhoton » Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:53 pm

judgenothing wrote:Correct me if I am mistaken. Is goat cheese the same as feta cheese? If so, I LOVE it in a gyro wrap! Was there any problems with the Indonesian chicken later on in the evening? How did it taste?


Feta is primarily from sheep's milk, I think. Regardless, feta is a bit crumblier, I think, and often sold in oil (olive?) Goat cheese is usually soft. I'm no cheese expert though. If it weren't for pizza and cheddar bay biscuits, I'd have no use for the stuff.

Oh, and the Indonesian chicken was disappointingly sweet. You can never tell with Asian dishes--sometimes they're spicy, and sometimes sweet. Meat shouldn't be sweet, IMHO. My hams are all smoked, not honey-glazed!


judgenothing wrote:Does everyone speak & understand English? The reason I am asking is because it seemed like no one knew what a toaster was.


Well, maybe "toaster" is a bit specialized, vocabulary-wise. For example, I expect there's a specific Dutch word for a pancake griddle, but you might not pick that up in high school Dutch. Yes, everyone seemed to have a working knowledge of English. Especially if you preceded your conversation with "Spreckt u Engels?"

judgenothing wrote:So, besides the camera cleaner bulb (WTF?), I take it there were no other issues worth mentioning on the flight home.


Not on the flight. One of the cameras was failing right from the first show, so we'll have to see if I got any usable footage on it. I think I did, but it did get relegated to the "safety" angle. It's back for some TLC with Sony now.
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Re: KK+Aaron in the Netherlands

Postby Canton » Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:23 pm

King,

I love the report. Thanks much. You really did terrific painting the pictures of the tour. I cannot wait to see the DVDs.

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